Friday, June 24, 2016

An Elderly Male with "Indigestion"

This case was contributed by Brooks Walsh, an ECG enthusiast who has contributed frequently, and edited by Smith


An elderly male called EMS after he developed “indigestion.” The paramedic recorded  a series of ECGs; the initial ECG is representative here:
Computer read: “Normal ECG
What do you think?

Algorithm is either Glasgow or Marquette 12 SL

This ECG is diagnostic of LAD occlusion because of terminal QRS distortion in lead V3.  See explanation below.

Smith sent this to the Queen of Hearts years later.  Here is the result:

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Two doses of nitroglycerin reduced the patient’s symptoms during transport. He was almost asymptomatic when he arrived in the ED. The paramedic interpreted this as a STEMI.

An ECG was obtained in the ED:
There is ST elevation in V2-V4.  Is it normal ST elevation (early repol?) or LAD occlusion?
The computer read this as “Early repolarization, otherwise normal ECG.”
What to you think?

Comment: the T waves in V2 and V3 are massive compared with the R waves, nearly diagnostic of hyperacute T waves.
The Subtle STEMI calculation is used to differentiate a subtle anterior acute coronary occlusion from early repolarization (ER).  ER is unlikely, given the age, but there is STE in both the anterior and lateral leads, and the J-points are either notched or slurred in many of those leads. Also, the STE is concave-upwards, further supporting ER as a “STEMI-mimic” in this case, though in approximately 40% of acute LAD occlusion, upward concavity is present in all of leads V2-V6.

Use of calculator (formula) on the EMS 12-lead: The EMS 12-lead had QTc 401 ms, with STE60V3 of 2.0 mm, and RA in V4 of 18 mm, resulting in a value of 20.2.   (Even making STE60V3 = 3.0 mm, and RA in V4 15 mm only moves the result to 22.4.)

Thus, using the Subtle Anterior STEMI calculator, the EMS ECG is strongly predicted to be ER, while that in the ED is borderline, and changed markedly depending on the baseline used in V3.

How about using the calculator on the ED 12-lead?
The ED ECG is more equivocal.
The QTc 439 ms, with STE60V3 of 2.0 mm, and RA in V4 of 16 mm, resulting in a value of 23.1   However, even small changes in RV4, and especially in V3STE60, tilt the result on ether side of 23.4!

However: one should not use the calculator in this patient!
The patient has overt evidence of anterior acute coronary occlusion, and so the formula might provide false-negative results.

In this case, there is "terminal QRS distortion," which in our study was a sign of "obvious" MI and thus an exclusion.  We have studied this (will be published) and found that it does not occur in early repol.

Terminal QRS distortion was defined as the absence of both a J-wave and an S-wave in either of V2 or V3.   In this case (see image below), there is virtually no S-wave in lead V3, nor is there a J-wave. The EMS 12-lead shows that the S wave (blue arrow) does not descend below baseline. The ED 12-lead, obtained in the context of improving symptoms, shows an S wave (red arrow) that just barely dips below the baseline.

This is terminal QRS distortion, and it has been discussed before here and here. 

An ECG was found from 2 months prior: 
There is no ST Elevation, normal R- and T-waves, normal S-waves in V2 and V3.  
The old ECG served as confirmation, but was not necessary to activate the cath lab. 

Pretest Probability
In a recent case with marked ST elevation, I argued that the pretest probability was low and one should therefore investigate more before activating the cath lab.  In that case, the patient did not have chest pain but was 36 years old.  This patient does not have chest pain but is elderly and that increases the pretest probability by a huge amount.  Furthermore, because of terminal QRS distortin, this ECG cannot be early repolarization, whereas that previous ECG with approximately 5 mm of ST elevation was indeed due to early repol. 

Additionally, a bedside echo was performed while waiting for the cath lab team to arrive, and it showed characteristic hypokinesis of the LAD distribution (apex and distal septum) on the apical 4-chamber view:


The cath lab was activated and a 99% LAD obstruction was found and opened and stented


  1. That is a good case to learn. Thank you for you for your post!

  2. Great case. I love how you show the value of acute Echo for supporting ECG findings. I’ll just add that on the initial EMS ECG — in addition to the terminal QRS distortion in lead V3 — it should be clear that this tracing is abnormal because: i) the T wave in lead V3 is completely disproportionate compared to the small QRS complex in this lead; and ii) there is subtle-but-real ST flattening with a fairly abrupt transition from ST segment to T wave in each of the 3 inferior leads. This is clearly a reciprocal change, consistent with acute LAD occlusion. THANKS for presenting!

  3. "normal" ECG from 2 months prior:

    - what about these thin q-waves in V2-V3 ?

    - know in LAFBlock (Rosenbaum ... Elizari), but there is not here

    - precordial leads above the conventional level ?

    Merci Dr Smith - Al

    1. Al,
      Agree. Not entirely normal but definitely very different from the presenting ECG, right?
      De rien!

  4. All, thank you for another excellent post. I have a few questions 1) Does the terminal QRS distortion "rule" only apply for V3-V6, since many cases of BER have no S wave in the inferior leads? 2) Can there be BER if QS waves are present in the precordial leads, since anterior MIs typically destroy the the R wave? and 3) Can you elaborate on how you determine the absence of a J wave i.e., is there no "notched" J point?

    1. Floyd,
      1. Terminal QRS distortion rule only applies to leads V2 and V3
      2. BER cannot have QS-waves, or any Q-waves, in V2 and V3
      3. J-wave is a notch at the end of the QRS, should be at least 0.5 mm in height.
      Steve Smith

  5. Interesting, - in the first ED graph , ectopic PVC in lead aVF shows concordant T wave , would you guys agree indicative of acute ischaemia

    Great blog .

    1. Troy,
      Concordance only applies to bundle branch block. So there is no concordance here.


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