This patient is running on a treadmill:
The stress test was stopped for fear that it was induced by ischemia.
This tracing was also recorded during the stress test:
Here we have the first ECG (Figure 1) with a ladder diagram:
Thus, what appears to be a troublesome situation turned out to be simple manifestations of frequent concealed PJCs, which are benign
A similar diagram for PACs can be seen here at Medscape ECG of the Week posted on 3/7/2012:
Figure 1. There are frequent apparently non-conducted p-waves. The PR interval is not lengthening, so this is not AV Wenckebach phenomenon. It appears to be 2nd degree AV block, Mobitz Type II. |
The stress test was stopped for fear that it was induced by ischemia.
This tracing was also recorded during the stress test:
Here we have the first ECG (Figure 1) with a ladder diagram:
Thus, what appears to be a troublesome situation turned out to be simple manifestations of frequent concealed PJCs, which are benign
A similar diagram for PACs can be seen here at Medscape ECG of the Week posted on 3/7/2012:
I believe the interpretation is done retrospectively after seeing the ECG with multiple PJCs right?
ReplyDeleteIn this case (and it is in the fine print of the case) the data was all there as part of the stress test. That is to say, figure 2 was also recorded during the same stress test.
DeleteGREAT case (that I'm just seeing now). I'd answer Ryan's excellent question by the concept I use all the time = "Birds of a Feather flock together". By this I mean - when a given patient manifests a similar phenomenon elsewhere (ie, multiple PJCs on other tracings) - then it becomes that much more likely that the difficult-to-explain phenomenon you are seeing is ALSO a manifestation of the same phenomenon (in this case PJCs - which occur at slightly different timing so as to be blocked).
ReplyDeleteThe other concept I use all the time is IF the patient in question appears unlikely to have significant underlying heart disease - then the difficult-to-explain phenomenon you are observing is not necessarily something "bad" ... I don't know about the patient in this case - but if seemingly healthy - that would be another factor supporting "Birds of a Feather" that this is all benign ...
The clinical utility of being aware of benign entities that may mimic Mobitz II is of course that you then do not have to worry about need for a pacemaker ...
THANKS for posting! - :)
thanks, Ken!
DeleteGood case. What if the non-conducted p waves come later then they should be? Normal PP interval is 8ms but for the non-conducted P its 10ms, and right after it is only 6ms. What would you think of it? Thank you!
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